He started going to a Apostolic Pentecostal church a couple years ago and its brainwashed him. How do I bring him back to the Catholic Church? How do I get him out of that brainwashing church?
CATHOLICS ANSWER ONLY, PLEASE.
How do you get someone to come to the church after being this?
bApostolic Pentecostalism; The Cult of Christianity/bbrNot all religions are cults but when emotional manipulation is used to recruit members it definitely starts to fall into that category. You can read here the methods the Apostolic Pentecostal use to build their cult empires.bra href=http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/221631/apostolic_pentecostalism_the_cult_of.htmlhttp://www.associatedcontent.comarticle/221631/apostolic_pentecostalism_the_cult_of.html/a
Originally posted 2009-04-04 20:28:47.
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One mans “brainwashing” just might be another mans awakening. I can only say THANK GOD that not only was my BRAIN “washed” in the Gospel I heard preached in an Apostolic Pentecostal Church but so was my body soul and spirit! Born and rasied a Catholic I thank Jesus every day of my life that he brought me out! From a dead empty religion to the same message preached on the day of Pentecost by the very man I had always been taught was the first “Pope” Repent and Be Baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the Remission of Sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38. Your friend has a LIVING relationship with God now you should be glad for him. And really again having grown up in a church that venerated severed body parts from people supposedly closer to God than others, having the power of the Holy Ghost replaced with bells chants and smoking incense. Really You may want to talk to your friend and find out just exactly what the differences HE has noticed between his former faith and his current faith. It may educate you and allow you to see who the brainwashed person REALLY is.
have you ever heard that one about a pot calling a kettle black?
Out of one brainwashing cult and back into another? Hmmm… let me think….
Oh joy. Get him back to the church of the little molestors. Nice.
Mind your own friggin business.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BRAIN WASH JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU DO.CONFESSING TO A MAN TO FORGIVE AND BLESS YOU CAUSED YOU SINNED.
dude. they’re both brain washing churches. if you want to ask this question with any validity, leave the catholic church and then get him to leave his church
EDIT: right. emotional manipulation. the catholic church really doesn’t play off the fear of hell? really?
Oh, so out of the kettle into the fire?
Can you not see that whilst his church is brainwashing him, your church is doing the same to you. Both are taking over your lives and are evil. These are man made gods and to give your life in this way is so wasteful. Why don’t you start enjoying life like normal people?
What difference does it make? It’s all christianity.
Oh, BTW, by saying you only want catholics to answer, you’re going to get a lot of non-catholics answering you, just because we like to piss you off.
= theist, former Christian
Only he can bring himself back to the RCC, not you, not anyone. Just him.
Look, I TOTALLY agree with you. Any Pentecostal or Fundamentalist or charismatic kind of church is a brainwashing kind of church, pure and simple. I totally understand why you’d want to help your friend to see through all the bullshiit that this church has been feeding him. However, if you nag him, he will not listen. He’s bound determined he’s on the right path, and that the RCC is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wanna know how to attract someone to church? Live the life. But don’t just live the life by merely going through the motions – going to Mass, praying, tithing, volunteering, etc. It starts inside. If you cultivate your spirituality, and you manifest it by good works, people around you will notice. There will be an inner peace, some kind of warmth and kindness from you, and they will notice. Your friend may ask you about it, and that’s when you tell him that you’re trying to become closer to God. What you do is share your own experience WITHOUT ALTERIOR MOTIVES. He will be able to smell a snow job, so BE CAREFUL and BE REAL.
When I went back to Mass (many moons ago!), after a while, folks around me started going as well. My sister, my b/f at the time, my mom, they all started going to Mass again, and there was not one bit of coaxing from me. I just lived as the most sincere Catholic Christian as I possibly could, not even thinking that others will follow suit. Voila, they did.
Both religions teach that treat others as you want to be treated really means take away the civil rights of law-abiding, taxpaying, gay Americans. So he might as well come back to your church and continue to be indoctrinated into the anti-gay lifestyle there. It has more pretty stained glass and he gets wine and bread.
Chances are your friend was Catholic by default, and not by practice. Real Catholics don’t fall for man-made religions. The best thing is to just be a friend, plant seeds, invite them to Mass that they probably have not been to since grade 8.
So would you feel the same way if a so called friend didn’t like the choices you made in your life that made you happy and tried to change them to suit his life because he wasn’t happy about your choice?
You can be totally honest with him and if your friend says no that he is not returning to your faith then leave it, as to continue to disregard your friends choices in his life is not being a true friend.
Never underestimate the power of prayer.
Pray to your Blessed Mother Mary using the most powerful weapon that men have: the Holy Rosary.
There is what is called a 54 day Rosary novena in which you make three novenas in petition and three novenas in thanksgiving. (a Rosary novena being that you recite five decades of the Rosary for 9 days–3 x 9 = 27–2 x 27 = 54). Pray with faith and confidence to your Blessed Mother Mary, she loves this individual and wants to see him return to the true faith moreso than you do. Be strong and don’t give up praying for this person. Even if he fails to cooperate with God’s grace, your prayers are never wasted.
I think it is also vitally important for you to understand that the true Catholic faith is found in fewer and fewer places these days. Many Catholics are being robbed of what the Church truly teaches. Please visit the websites below.
Sorry, I’m not Catholic, but I just gotta tellya, your friend has made a choice you should respect. You are at opposite ends of the religious spectrum but that alone doesnt make either of you wrong as long as your search for truth is satisfied and your both have God in your lives to the degree you want. I dont recommend that you go with him to Church though. The shock of seeing someone actually worshipping God would be too much for a very quiet, shhhhh, quiet ………Catholic.
How about you butt out?
You cannot bring him back yourself. Conversions come from God alone. The best thing you can do for him is pray for him. Everytime you receive the Blessed Sacrament offer it up for him. And most importantly do as St. Francis says, Preach the Gospel to the world and if necessary use words. Live by example.
There are other sneaky things you could do to at least ward off the devil. Go to his house and bury a miraculous medal in his yard without him knowing, or sprinkle holy water or put a blessed prayer card in a drawer he doesn’t open. Little things like that could bring him some protection at least and hopefully help to clear his mind.
If you think he might just read some material you give him, there are a ton of essays and brochures and pamphlets and books floating around. My favorite is The Question Box by Fr. Conway. It was printed at the beginning of the 20th century and is responsible for the conversions of tens of thousands of Protestants to the Catholic faith. It is a compilation of answers to all the questions protestants put forward to Fr. Conway.
And allcreations is correct about the church today. Please do visit the links she posted as well as the ones I have supplied below.
An Apostolic Pentecostal church is not a brainwash church. It is simply is digging deeper into the Bible and following everything God says.
For example:
Most church’s know that Corinthians 11 simply states that a woman should have uncut or shorn hair, but they simply ignore it. Apostolics follow everything God and the Bible says. It is just a deeper way of fully committing yourself to God. When you walk through the mall, people know your holy.. Trust me, I know from experience.
My advice.. no one religion is right for everyone, but make sure that the one your in is not because of your family, friends, etc. Make sure it is the one you choose for yourself.
Maybe you should visit your friends Apostolic church if you haven’t. If it is not the right one for you, then stick with your Catholic church, but obviously he chose the Apostolic church, so don’t try to pull him out of it.
I love being Apostolic. I am constantly full of happiness. If you haven’t tried it, I highly recommend it.
Your friend will not convert from Pentecost back to Catholic as long as he is a true Pentecost. I know because I’ve gone to a Pentecost church (not my choice forced by parents) once you’ve really committed to it you know that all other religions are wrong even if you quit going to the Pentecostal church you know it would do no good to go to a different church because you still go to hell. I don’t live by the standards of my church anymore but I would never go to any different church if I went back.
first, you need to know what apostolic means. It means they teach the same doctrine that the apostles taught, that Jesus taught them.
2) It means they believe the bible for what it says, not what a man wants them to believe.
3) it means they don’t believe in the trinity. So, if you can find the word trinity in the Bible, even one time you may can prove to your friend that the Catholic church is right. the apostolics believe in 1 God, not 3 gods.
4) If there were 3 gods, they may argue about something and then not be in unity.
Good luck with that! I was catholic and now im Apostolic Pentecostal, you should check it out
He is better wherever he wants to be.
Leave him alone.
Think positively. At least he didn’t embrace Islam.